It seems that the subject of trash stirred people. So here are a
selection of reader's letters. Apart from the one mail I copy
below suggesting I remain neutral, not one of the mails I
received were supportive of the idea of a single hauler. Please
read all and discover what your neighbors think and were so
concerned about that they wrote to me about it. The poll on Kit
Trolier's own website shows 98% of those voting preferred to
stay with multiple independent haulers.
The committee is stacked. Kit Trolier for one is not going in
with an open mind. She tried to tell me it was required by PA
law that the Twsp. take over because of number of residents.
I challenged her about the number and she said well, we are very
close and will be there soon. Then we are not required? She
said, we like to be ahead of the curve. Bull crap! These are
They want government to make our choices and take our freedom
away? They claim there were "several" residents who expressed
interest in this. How many is that, 3 or 4? I wonder if a signed
petition of say 500 or more would make any difference to this
court of Kangaroos? Freedom trumps any trumped up environmental
or road wear nonsense. If individual developments can't agree on
one hauler, how can the entire Township? Don't answer that. I
know how. Apparently, this is life in Quinville.
attended this meeting and I thought this gentlemen who obviously
knew what he was talking about was completely ignored, obviously
the Supervious being all knowing had made the choice for us. I
am as a resident of WV am completely happy with my choice of
Waste Management and have been for years even thought I could
select another company less expentsive because they do a fine
job and do not cause a traffic problem problem, they collect
very early before most residents are on the road.
chickenman. We are starting a petition against the township
involvement of trash pick up.
again, can I say how really, really glad I am I don't live in
West Vincent? Here in East Nantmeal, we not only get to pick our
own Haulers, but some of us manage to recycle most of our trash
and rarely need their services at all. I can't believe the
Township can force its residents to do what it's proposing! Can
township sucks, but what can a person do? If the administration
wants to remain corrupt, I’m not sure what we can do to change
it. Suggestions are welcome if you know some other way to
address it. Showing up and being vocal doesn’t appear to be
working. The whole thing needs to be rebooted.
I really admire the work you do to try keeping people honest who
are involved in our township operation. However, it appears
that you've already made up your mind about the single trash
hauler issue before the possibilities have been reviewed. Isn't
that one of very things you're fighting against?
Shouldn't we remain neutral until the Task Force looks into
it? If they can negotiate a rate cheaper than the
$87.45/quarter I currently pay, that would be great. I'm
optimistic, because a mega-client consisting of everyone in our
township should get a rate at least 20 percent below an
individual customer, right?
On balance, please keep up the good work!
Thanks for writing . I've
got a couple of points. Well, four actually! First, there will
be no problem in hearing the point of view for the single
collector. Clare wants this, she generally gets what she wants,
and the trash committee have been carefully chosen to be, in the
main, people who support her point of view. So we will hear all
about the advantages of just one hauler, not a lot about the
Second point I covered in my mailing of April 12 this year also
November 8 last year. See my website. But the main point here
would be the poll conducted on the Brown/Trolier website. On
this poll, reproduced on my 2 earlier mailings 98% wanted to
keep multiple haulers. However, I have just checked, the poll
is still there, on http://goodgovernmentforwestvincent.com/component/poll/2-trash-poll.html
, (Sorry - that website was later closed down
after David Brown was caught contradicting his campaign
statements on issues AFTER he was Supervisor.) but - catastrophe - the number wanting to keep the status quo
has gone down. As of today, only 97.7% want to retain
independent haulers. I can't stress enough. This is Kit
Trolier's OWN website showing 98% opposed, yet she is one of
those leading the charge for a single hauler. So much for
respecting the wishes of the voters......
Third point. If you are not happy with your township appointed
hauler, he cannot be fired. Multiple haulers, you just choose
the next company in line.
Fourth point. If you recycle on your own, or carefully generate
little trash, then you are shackled to a bill for the collection
of everyone's trash, even those who are not nearly so careful as
you are. The idea of a single hauler paid by tax on everyone is
a godsend for those kings of the trash producers. Without
doubt, they will be voting for the idea of a single hauler.
But yes, you are correct, in an ideal world "a mega-client
consisting of everyone in our township should get a rate at
least 20 percent below an individual customer," Unhappily we
are not in an ideal world and other factors come into play, such
as those I have outlined above and also those in my various
emails on the subject.
May I quote your mail? Either with, or without your name, as
Here is his reply:
Good points! OK, I understand. You can use my quotes, but
please without my name (I'm trying to live peacefully, quietly
and "under the radar" in this township). ( ;-)
That being said, I also volunteered for the Task Force, not
really because I'm interested in trash, but largely because I
thought it might give me a real-world peek into the machinations
of our township. I wasn't chosen, and I wasn't asked to provide
any qualifications, so I can only assume that the choosers
"Googled" my name. I worked in ******. You'd think that would
be a positive factor, but who knows.
Here's another letter
I was there, when she did that. I don't remember the exact word.
However, I do remember the derogatory sneering tone in her voice
as she said it. It had a huge amount of negative emotion in it. I
could not figure out why she was saying it to those people. I
guess it was that she had to say it to someone and they happened
to be close to her at the time. It was like a black cloud as she
we go again !! One cannot get a straight answer from any of
them. It's like they all went to the same class to take
mumble/double speak classes.
What really irritates me is that nobody can tell us just what
is the criteria for these people in determining the trash
removal. What is their experience in trash removal companies? Do
they know who has good equipment or bad. Will the Township get
into the trash removal business ? Can we opt out of the Township
Trash Removal or are we held hostage by them.
Gotta love them ....
Here's one I received earlier
Chickenman, Love your emails. Just saw in the township
newsletter that they may go to having one refuse co. for the
township. We are against this idea. We lived in a township that
did this and it was more expensive and very restrictive. We are
happy with the way things are. How do we express our feelings
about this? Thanks, a fan. Please don't print my name
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